"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

Monday, 10 August 2009

Where's The British Equivalent?

I think quite a few British people would sleep easier in their beds knowing we had the equivalent of this American association:

Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, peace officers, fire-fighters, and veterans who swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic...

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."

9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

Here's a link to Oath Keepers' website with more info and an explanatory video: Oath Keepers


  1. Hi OR, I guess that because we have a Constitutional Monarchy it makes an oath of allegiance a bit different - I'm beginning to wish we were a Republic after all!

  2. Our Armed Forces would tell the govt to go f*** itself if they ever tried to turn them on us.

    The New Labour paramilitary wing (just a matter of time before it is created), would be a different matter though...

  3. It isn't just this govt though is it? It's the EU as well. I've been doing some reading this evening - about flags, anthems, oaths of allegiance, the banning of non-pan-european political parties and stuff like that; all provided for in the Lisbon Treaty. I'm beginning to think we haven't seen the half of it yet.

  4. Agreed, GV. A republic is a superior concept to a democracy. In a republic, as defined by the US constitution, 50% of the population don't get the right to sign away your freedoms or your dosh because you have inalienable rights.

    That's of course why politicians have been decimating the constitution for the last 20 years.

  5. I've always been a Monarchist Fausty but the developments of the past few years make me question why we bother - she's supposed to be a bulwark against erosion of constitutional freedoms but doesn't seem to have done anything at all except give the Royal Assent to the Lisbon Treaty. Makes you wonder.

  6. Don't worry, Gigitis is right but does not go far enough. The British Army and other forces, alongside former servicemen, would protect the people whatever the government said.

    In May 1997 there was open, albeit idle, speculation of revolt among at least one unit's junior officers who did not trust Blair as far as they could spit on him. If the government went too far in undermining the people then there would be civil war, and believe me the side with that particular unit on it would win, mostly because the rest of the regulars would follow. Whatever the pro-EU politicians think, all the European forces there are could not help them; the Royal Dutch Marines would side with the Royal Marines, and the French and Spanish Foreign Legions are cut through with ex-British Army NCOs. There is no other fighting force on the continent would dare confront British forces on their own soil.

    The Army's loyalty is not to The Government. It might be to a government (Thatcher and Major could command their respect), but that is on a contingent basis, and this government is not well-liked.

    Republics forget the advantage of a constitutional Monarchy, even if the Monarch is too weak to refuse a parliamentary bill. The Army's loyalty, and that of the Royal Navy and the RAF, is to the Queen. She represents the people, not the government.

  7. Thanks DR, there's some comfort to be found there- a whole new Dad's Army would spring up as well. We know how it's supposed to be constitutionally but this particular govt has run rings round our constitution.


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