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Monday, 26 October 2009

Why Now?

What's the media fuss this morning about police spotter cards? It's not as if we didn't know. Some of them also unlawfully detain & arrest and cite 'laws' which don't exist in order to delete photographs or mobile phone footage.
Anton Setchell, who is in overall command of ACPO's domestic extremism remit said: "Just because you have no criminal record does not mean that you are not of interest to the police. Everyone who has got a criminal record did not have one once."

Met Police guidance

Extract:
"Freedom to photograph/film


Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel.
Terrorism Act 2000


Photography and Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000


The Terrorism Act 2000 does not prohibit people from taking photographs or digital images in an area where an authority under section 44 is in place.


Officers have the power to view digital images contained in mobile telephones or cameras carried by a person searched under S44 of the Terrorism Act 2000, provided that the viewing is to determine whether the images contained in the camera or mobile telephone are of a kind, which could be used in connection with terrorism. Officers also have the power to seize and retain any article found during the search which the officer reasonably suspects is intended to be used in connection with terrorism.


Officers do not have the power to delete digital images or destroy film at any point during a search.


Photography and Section 43 of the Terrorism Act 2000


Officers have the power to stop and search a person who they reasonably suspect to be a terrorist. The purpose of the stop and search is to discover whether that person has in their possession anything which may constitute evidence that they are a terrorist.


Officers have the power to view digital images contained in mobile telephones or cameras carried by a person searched under S43 of the Terrorism Act 2000 to discover whether the images constitute evidence that the person is involved in terrorism. Officers also have the power to seize and retain any article found during the search which the officer reasonably suspects may constitute evidence that the person is a terrorist. This includes any mobile telephone or camera containing such evidence.


Officers do not have the power to delete digital images or destroy film at any point during a search.


Section 58a of the Terrorism Act 2000


Section 58a of the Terrorism Act 2000 covers the offence of eliciting, publishing or communicating information about members of the armed forces, intelligence services or police.


Any officer making an arrest for an offence under Section 58a must be able to demonstrate a reasonable suspicion that the information was of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.


It should ordinarily be considered inappropriate to use Section 58a to arrest people photographing police officers in the course of normal policing activities, including protests, as without more, there is no link to terrorism."

UPDATE: More on Anton Setchell, ACPO & various 'Units' here.

4 comments:

  1. woman on a raftOctober 26, 2009

    "These people and activities usually seek to prevent something from happening or to change legislation or domestic policy, but attempt to do so outside of the normal democratic process."

    That description fits a great number of organizations from the NSPCC to any corporate communications division, and includes the judiciary. They all seek to influence legislation and/or domestic policy, as do I when I pick up my pen. The normal democratic process is simply voting - that's all. Everything else, including blogging, is outside that.

    I hope ACPO have remembered to open a file on themselves.

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  2. True WoaR - that's as ludicrous as the quote from Setchell above: 'Just because you have no criminal record...' What's the point of issuing guidelines for them to be completely ignored by officers on the ground? As has been stated so many times: innocent until proven guilty is fast becoming a myth in this country and the way is being paved for Corpus Juris.

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  3. Lately, GV, I have been thinking about the similarities between State control and Roman Catholic doctrine. One of the concepts that the Catholic Church invented to control the people was the doctrine of 'Original Sin', whereby even an (innocent!) newborn was born in the sin of Adam and Eve's treachery. Everyone born in sin. Everyone unknowingly a criminal because of laws they don't know exist. State control, not Islam, is the coming religion for Britain, I think.

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  4. That's a good correlation Edgar. Authoritarianism is the principle that links the three - RC, Islam and State.
    Muhammed is infallible, the Pope is infallible and, as we know, Nanny is never wrong.

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